perf-moe-optimization-workflow
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Systematic workflow for MoE training optimization in Megatron Bridge, based on the Megatron-Core MoE paper. Covers the Three Walls framework, parallel folding, recompute strategy, dispatcher choice, and CUDA-graph bring-up.
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--- name: perf-moe-optimization-workflow description: Systematic workflow for MoE training optimization in Megatron Bridge, based on the Megatron-Core MoE paper. Covers the Three Walls framework, parallel folding, recompute strategy, dispatcher choice, and CUDA-graph bring-up. when_to_use: Full MoE throughput tuning sweep, or diagnosing a MoE throughput regression after a commit or config change; 'optimize MoE throughput', 'MoE perf tuning', 'Three Walls', 'memory wall', 'communication wall', 'compute wall'. --- # MoE Training Optimization Workflow Stable docs: @docs/training/moe-optimization.md Card: @skills/perf-moe-optimization-workflow/card.yaml Source: [Scalable Training of MoE Models with Megatron Core](https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.07685) ## Quick Reference Think in terms of the paper's Three Walls: - memory wall - communication wall - compute and host-overhead wall MoE tuning is iterative. Fixing one wall usually exposes the next one, so the best workflow is: fit first, scale second, profile third, then retune. ## Phase 1: Make The Run Memory-Feasible Start with a configuration that fits reliably before chasing throughput. Recommended order: 1. Use the smallest amount of model parallelism that still fits. 2. Turn on selective recompute before falling back to full recompute. 3. Add offloading only when recompute and parallelism are still insufficient. 4. Use `--fake-init-process-group` to sanity-check large parallel layouts on a single GPU before burning cluster time. ### Recompute guidance Prefer selective recompute for MoE runs: - good first choices: `layernorm`, `core_attn`, `moe_act`, `mlp`, or model-specific modules (`shared_experts`, `mla_up_proj`) - use full recompute only when the run still does not fit - revisit recompute after enabling CUDA graphs, because some graph scopes and full recompute paths do not mix well As a rule of thumb, fine-grained recompute often recovers most of the needed memory while keeping throughput much closer to the non-recompute baseline than full-layer recompute does. ## Phase 2: Choose Parallelism For Scale Priority order: 1. Maximize DP once the model fits. 2. Keep the hot communication path inside the fast interconnect when possible. 3. Use PP, plus VPP if needed, for multi-node scaling. 4. Prefer EP over extra TP for expert layers. 5. Add CP for long context once sequence length makes attention memory dominant. ### Parallel Folding Parallel Folding decouples attention and MoE parallelism so you do not have to pick a single compromise layout: ```text Attention: TP × CP × DP × PP MoE: ETP × EP × EDP × PP ``` Key knobs: - `--expert-model-parallel-size` - `--expert-tensor-parallel-size` Use it when attention prefers some TP or CP, but expert layers benefit from a larger EP degree than the dense layers can tolerate. ## Phase 3: Profile The Dominant Bottleneck | Bottleneck | What it looks like | Primary fixes | |---|---|---| | Memory | Run fits only with aggressive full recompute or OOMs during warmup | selective recompute, FP8, offloading, better PP layout | | Communication | Nsight shows large all-to-all or collective blocks | DeepEP or HybridEP, EP overlap, DP/TP overlap, better PP layout | | Host overhead | GPU gaps, launch-bound traces, Python overhead | CUDA graphs, `--manual-gc`, higher MBS, CPU affinity tuning | | Compute | Low SM utilization after comm and host issues are addressed | grouped GEMM, fusion work, FP8, dispatcher-specific kernel tuning | ## Dispatcher And Overlap Guidance Use dispatcher choice as a bottleneck fix, not as the first tuning knob. - `moe_token_dispatcher_type="alltoall"`: safest bring-up path, fine for smaller EP sizes - `moe_token_dispatcher_type="flex"` + `moe_flex_dispatcher_backend="deepep"`: strong default for H100 and B200 style deployments - `moe_token_dispatcher_type="flex"` + `moe_flex_dispatcher_backend="hybridep"`: strongest starting point on GB200 or GB300 NVL72 systems If the all-to-all path is …